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What Makes Us Sick: Terrain vs Germ Theory
Dr. Rob Verkerk
We are subjected to constant propaganda that the next pandemic is inevitable, that sooner or later, probably sooner, there will be a truly devastating virus or bacteria that will kill a significant percentage of us.
But there are those who question whether or not viruses even exist. While belief in the terrain theory, often seen as the alternate view to germ theory, doesn’t necessarily mean that person does not believe in the existence of viruses, there are proponents of the theory who do categorically deny their existence.
As the majority of us are not scientists, not doctors, our own belief is often subject to what we hear. And what we hear is overwhelmingly controlled and funded by those who have a vested financial interest in a belief in germ theory.
In an effort to provide you all with a comprehensive understanding of both sides of the argument, and to do so in such a way that we invite you to draw your own conclusions, I am joined today by Dr. Rob Verkerk, the founder of the Alliance For Natural Health.
Dr. Verkerk is an internationally acclaimed multi-disciplinary sustainability scientist with a 40-year background in environmental, agricultural, food, nutritional and health sciences.
In this, part 1 of this two part extensive interview, Rob explains both sides of the germ theory vs terrain theory argument, while at the same time educating us on the fact that the issue is far more complex than many of us are aware of, or may even have considered.
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ROB: We don’t understand very much about how much an infectious agent can be transmitted by contact, by air, by body fluids. And we know that there’s been often a kind of simplification of the science usually to justify a particular product or instill certain fear in people. And this is where I would say some of the work that Cowan and Bailey and others are doing is very useful.
ROB: And that’s one of the reasons when you look at the scientific community in terms of what the virus denies are saying, it is a tiny proportion of scientists that support that view. And I know Mike Yeadon is one of those, I’m somewhat surprised about that.
– Surprised that Yeadon has managed to deprogram his industry indoctrination faster than most others and now use his skills applying logic and reasoning effectively to realize Covid-19 is an orchestrated FRAUD with bogus false positive PCR tests disguised as “asymptomatic” infections combined with Remdesivir causing organ failure, Midazolam poison and deadly ventilators in a coordinated end of life, no resuscitate, depopulation protocol!
ROB: And that’s why there is still a lot of debate, are viruses living? Are they non -living? Is it a process? Are they a thing?
– Well just take samples of those 12, 000 “confirmed” viruses off the shelf and let the scientists study them!
Oh, right they only exist as genetic computer sequences – kind of like digital money in the bank accounts of big pharma from governments buying a dozen jabs for each citizen in advance to prepare for the next computer sequenced variant.
ROB: Google scholar even better, you’ll see you come up with hundreds of papers that show a process in which viruses have been isolated.
But then what you find when you start to download the actual papers behind those abstracts, you come up with exactly the issue that that Cowan and Bailey have found that that they do that on the assumption that they don’t need a control, or if they do use a control, it’s not a true control. It’s what we would call a pseudo control. And that’s kind of where they stop. They say, well, then it means they haven’t proven it.
– There the decades old scientific fraud – avoiding the use of a valid control – is exposed in the simplest terms.
A better car analogy would be… Why does one car start and the other not?
Since there are numerous reasons why a car might not start it’s not possible to determine the cause is “a deadly virus” without controls to exclude other possible reasons.
Which food caused one person in a dinner group to get sick? Without controls the virologist could say “the buffet virus” causes illness in everyone but most people are asymptomatic.
ROB: Now, one of the reasons that the vaccines have failed so abysmally is that they don’t don’t fully sterilize the virus.
– How do you sterilize a virus if it is a process?
Pfizer VP Janine Small testified to the EU parliament that the injections were never tested for transmission because “we had to move at the speed of science” in a tribute to George Orwell..
The real reason for this is likely that the “leaky” jabs are designed to cause bioweapon transmission “for the greater good” among the vaccine hesitant population and the placebo group would have shown no transmission.
ROB: And so, when we invited them (Cowan and Bailey) to talk about what is known about viruses in a whole range of ecological sciences in the soil, in the oceans, in bacteria and archaea, they weren’t interested. They were only interested specifically in relation to humans and particularly in relation to SARS -CoV -2.
– Yes they seem to want to avoid irrelevant distractions from the issue at hand poisoning people and damaging economies globally so it might be stopped sooner rather than later.
ROB: And to imagine that viruses don’t exist is the cleanest solution to their dilemma.
– Or the fact that no samples of SARS-Cov-2 exist anywhere in the world for researchers to use in experiments to confirm causation of observed illness, natural contagious transmission requiring isolation, masking, and social distancing as effective countermeasures, indicate the likelihood of a massive fraud.
Great job once again Will in search of solving the mysteries of why the globalists in our governments are trying to kill us and steal all our stuff.
Dr. Rob Verkerk says, “My belief based on the knowledge that I’ve acquired over 40 years suggests to me that viruses…are elements of genetic information that are exchanged…they quite rarely create disease.
ROB: I feel, feel looking at the Cowan, Bailey, Kaufman arguments is really looking at this idea of isolation, purification, direct versus indirect evidence of existence, and then the propensity to cause disease.
And of course, that’s why they keep going back to the… original Cox postulates. And as an ecologist, for me, the Cox postulates are completely irrelevant, because the Cox postulates are entirely built around this idea that you have to have a microorganism that basically can be shown to cause disease.
– Which makes Cox postulates entirely relevant to show the cause of the “Covid-19” disease as bioweapons, bacteria, parasites, exosomes or viruses as a process.
WILL: Right. And if it can’t cause disease, it can’t exist.
– Hold back your bias Will – it can exist and be known scientifically as exosomes found in biological fluids including saliva, blood, urine and cerebrospinal fluid, and are involved in cell to cell communication, disease transmission and drug delivery.
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– The issue at hand is causing illness because toxic gain of function laboratory bioweapon, computer sequenced, gene altering injections disguised as “vaccines” are being mandated for a “deadly virus” that has never been proven to cause illness – Cox postulates – and nowhere in the world does a sample of it exist, which equals FRAUD on a massive scale.
ROB: And we know most of the time these viruses, all bacteria or mycoplasma or whatever, do not cause disease.
WILL: Right. And I think you framed really well there, this argument between the two sides. It has focused a great deal on direct and indirect proof of existence of viruses and do they cause disease.
– CORRECT! That’s where scientific method with a control experiment is required or it’s unverified speculation.
ROB: So I’m totally in agreement with Cowen and Bailey on the point that showing a picture of something at a given point in time, particularly when you’re… recognize that a virus is a lot of the time, not a thing, but a process, isn’t in itself evidence of the existence of viruses.
I totally support their many criticisms of the fact that if you’re going to do isolation and purification, you should always have a control that is absolutely an identical control in every sense, not just a saline control. or in fact no control at all. Because how could you then prove that there weren’t impurities involved?
– CORRECT! Impurities like pesticides, herbicides, preservatives, artificial colorings etc.
Or gain of function bioweapons added to seasonal flu vaccines to be spread through aerosolized shedding among populations worldwide and activated at a later date by EMF radiation like 4G or 5G wifi – as described in Microsoft’s patent to UPLOAD data via wifi.
WILL: what about the difference between somebody who has influenza and somebody who has Zika? They have a completely different set of symptoms. And I don’t see any way that the terrain theory on its own, absent of accepting the existence of viruses, could explain that.
– How about all “deadly viruses” like Zika have associated patents and were lab created bioweapons?
Yes, an amazing interview. Well done! I understand germ vs. terrain theory was much disputed or debated between Louis Pasteur and Claud Bernard. Also, there was a story of a deathbed admission by Pasteur that ‘terrain was everything’. I hope in Part II that you explain terrain as it relates to human bodies in the context of our total surround. Dr. Verkerk is a master communicator and Iron Will, congratulations for selecting him to be interviewed.
Thanks to DR. Verkerk & Will for Part #1 of this excellent discussion.